Choosing an antenna and router

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: zima2005 » 2023-02-04, 18:06

There is nothing to argue, the reason is probably in the sma or NZ connectors on the CNT400, possibly poor quality or poorly earned.
On H155 I quickly made the SMA tip and there is an improvement. The company where I bought it also suspects the connector but does not want to send cables back there.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-02-04, 19:18

But the signal parameters on LTE2600 on the antenna with these cables are correct for the distance you have to BTS, and how does it work when you force LTE2600 + 2100 + 1800 with the antenna in the direction of Młyniec-Turzno? And did you check the aggregation of these 1800 LTE bands with the 2600-3MHz antenna in the directions of Głogowo or Krobia.
As for the argument, my friend has been writing his fairy tales about Cybertech antennas for years, although tests shown by people, as in your case, show that the antennas work properly, and as for the quality of workmanship, you can see for yourself what it looks like.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: jfk » 2023-02-04, 20:15

Check the signal status on the modem without the antenna on individual bands and after using it - you will see the real gain of the antenna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhqWB9QPfw.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-02-18, 11:32

I'm going to hijack this thread so as not to start a new one.

I have a ZTE MF286D modem with OpenWRT software.
Will choosing an inexpensive outdoor antenna improve the signal quality?
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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: jfk » 2023-02-18, 18:32

ZTE MF286D is equipment with a specific configuration of antenna inputs (one socket for the B20/B3/B1 bands, the other B7), in your case, I would go for the signal parameters in the direction of putting it outside in a hermetic housing (the destination for the antenna), PoE via twisted pair + 48V/12V adapter.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-02-18, 19:20

Even with such signal parameters, the aggregation of 3 capacitive LTE bands showed how crowded the T-mobile base station at JP II 33 is, unless it is an offer with DL up to 20 Mb / s?

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-02-19, 17:13

Yes, it is offer speed 30mb/s, no data limit ;)

Are there dedicated hermetic enclosures?

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: jfk » 2023-02-19, 18:29

Perun writes:Are there dedicated hermetic enclosures?

No, you have to choose something yourself in a well-stocked electrical shop/wholesaler.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-02-19, 20:03

And how are the tests with the MF289f put out the window, i.e. a screenshot from the diagnostics and speedtest at this time.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-01, 20:42

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I turned on aggregation, set the band to 1800 Mhz.
The effects are that I work at a similar speed as in the contract and the ping is back to normal.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 11:51

I threw the modem into a hermetic box and fixed it outside [4th floor :] ]
I don't see a big difference in the signal, the best effect on 1800 Mhz without aggregation, but I have to test it once more at: 18-22; I'm posting a couple of screenshots below:

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I don't know, maybe I'll try to turn it with its back to the transmitter, the side where the antenna outputs are.

With the modem turned around:
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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: tomekwwa » 2023-03-15, 12:01

And he lies or is upright, because that can also make a difference.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 12:08

tomekwwa wrote:And he lies or is upright, because that can also make a difference.

Vertical, I don't know why it rotated my picture.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-15, 17:21

This T-mobile base station is barely breathing at 11 a.m. It is already heavily overloaded, T-mobile from such a BTS is not able to provide internet without data limit at decent speeds, in addition you are unlucky because you are between sectors 1 and 3 of this BTS -a, outside, very good RSRP on each of the LTE capacitive bands, but very weak or tragic SINR, of course you can't do anything about it, T-mobile has a problem in your location, no base station in the Długa/Leśna area

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 17:26

mothers451 says:This T-mobile base station is barely breathing at 11 a.m. It is already heavily overloaded, T-mobile from such a BTS is not able to provide internet without data limit at decent speeds, in addition you are unlucky because you are between sectors 1 and 3 of this BTS -a, outside, very good RSRP on each of the LTE capacitive bands, but very weak or tragic SINR, of course you can't do anything about it, T-mobile has a problem in your location, no base station in the Długa/Leśna area


Is SINR going to do something about it?

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Re: Selection of LTE260 antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-15, 17:56

From the beginning, I wrote what the problem is and the next test will confirm it, one of the LTE2600 logins to the 3rd sector remaining to the first one, including LTE band aggregation. This is one of the sources of low SINR, but it still does not change the fact that the station is clogged with too many customers, it can be even worse, use the aggregation of 3 LTE bands or change the operator.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 18:39

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Here are the stats from Playa.
I gave up on CP because I couldn't use it.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-15, 19:29

This test is on the phone at home or outside, how does speedtest Play perform in such conditions? In the case of Plus, it is crucial whether 23G5 works on BTS Długa 2600, you would have to check, but rather it is.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 19:41

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Here's a beach test.

I've been doing CP for 6 years in all ways :]

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-15, 19:54

And what is this Play card, what is the tariff on it? Plus on LTE is a carcass but 5G2600 is completely different, BTS Długa got a 1112Mb / s radio link, so you can now have nice results on 5G.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-15, 20:02

Mine on the phone. Plan with 55GB, no speed limit.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-16, 09:35

Test at home or outside, signal parameters on LTE1800 sufficient and weak on LTE2600/2100 with JP II, you have the same T-mobile but sector 3, although also on its edge.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-16, 10:01

That at home and here outsidePicture:

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-16, 20:09

And the speedtest in such conditions outside is now an aggregation of 3 LTE capacitive bands from the first sector.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: jfk » 2023-03-17, 11:17

mothers451 says:And how are the tests with the MF289f put out the window

It's MF286D, the advantage of MF289F in addition to higher cat modem. (although with such base stations the QoS is high / also I do not know if adding another band would give more / less kbps ...) the quality of the built-in antennas is better.
Perun writes:Is SINR going to do something about it?

Yes, "turn off the electricity" to other network users / without additional bandwidth, customer escapes will not change (if you are able to get a relatively stable 20Mbps, you just have to enjoy it or check if 5G from Plus works ...). In 2018, on a cat.4 modem in the B7/Play band, it was about 5Mbps during peak hours, after turning off the free promotion, the modem reached 90Mbps at the same time, and the prices of fixed lines from dumping in cable jumped by almost 100% (even in Toya net was for 30 zlotys without TV, others with TV packages for PLN 10-20 for 10/20Mbps access ...).

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-18, 11:43

Play outside here:

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Here's Orange outside:

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: voytek » 2023-03-18, 12:47

Play looks much better, the signal is strong, the SNR is weak, the upload is high and the download is low, which means that the base station is overloaded. You need to look for a better place for the antenna to improve SNR / SINR.
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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: mothers451 » 2023-03-18, 13:02

ORANGE is a sector on LTE2600 with JP II, speedtest shows that it is clogged, Play this time is the overloaded first sector with JP II in the aggregation of 3 LTE capacitive bands, also unfortunately sector jumps because you are in Play also between 3 and 1, the alternative is forcing LTE capacitive bands from BTS Play Jeżów Sudecki with an external Dual LTE1800-2600MHz directional antenna, but first you would have to check how it works from the 2nd sector, i.e. on the azimuth of 190 degrees because it is in your direction, test near the BTS on this azimuth.

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Re: Choosing an antenna and router

Postauthor: Perun » 2023-03-19, 11:50

Ok, what antenna would you recommend?


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